Do condo dues at Town Shores count toward my loan qualifying?

Short Answer

Yes. When your loan is reviewed, condo and HOA dues count in your monthly housing cost, along with principal, interest, taxes, and insurance. At Town Shores, dues vary by building, so get the current amount in writing for your unit. Special assessments can matter too. Any loan approval is conditional until all underwriting conditions are met.

Do condo dues count toward my loan qualifying?

Yes. Underwriting looks at your full monthly housing cost. That includes principal and interest, property taxes, homeowners insurance, mortgage insurance if any, and association dues.

What this looks like in Pinellas

Town Shores in Gulfport has a master association and separate building associations. Dues vary building to building. Two units with the same price can qualify differently because of dues.

Step by step

  1. Get the current dues for the unit in writing.
  2. Ask what the dues include.
  3. Ask about special assessments.
  4. Share those numbers early so your pre-approval reflects them.
  5. Expect the condo project to be reviewed too.

At a glance

Part of housing costCounted?
Principal and interestYes
Property taxesYes
Homeowners insuranceYes
Association duesYes
Special assessmentsOften reviewed

What you control and what you don't

You control which unit you choose. You don't control the association's dues or assessments.

Common mistakes

  • Getting pre-approved without the dues.
  • Comparing units by price only.
  • Ignoring a pending assessment.

How dues affect your debt ratio

Lenders compare your total monthly debts to your income. Your housing payment is the biggest part. Condo dues are added to principal, interest, taxes, insurance, and mortgage insurance to get that payment. So higher dues mean a higher ratio, even at the same price.

That's why two units at the same price can qualify differently. A unit with lower dues may qualify when a unit with higher dues doesn't.

What dues often cover at Town Shores

Each building's dues can cover different things. Common items include building insurance, water and sewer, trash, cable or internet, common area upkeep, reserves, and amenities. Ask for the current budget and a list of what's included. If dues cover the master insurance policy, your own condo policy, called an HO-6, may cost less.

Master and building associations

Town Shores has a master association and separate building associations. You may owe dues to both. Ask for the amounts in writing for the specific unit, and ask whether the master fee is billed with the building dues or separately.

Special assessments

Florida's condo safety laws, passed after the Surfside collapse, require milestone inspections for certain buildings and structural integrity reserve studies. Many associations have raised dues or levied special assessments to fund repairs and reserves. Ask:

  • Has a special assessment been levied?
  • Is one being discussed?
  • When was the last milestone inspection or reserve study?
  • What did it find?

An assessment that's already levied can be counted in your ratio, depending on how it's paid.

The condo review

Your loan program will review the project, not just you. That can include a questionnaire about owner-occupancy, delinquencies, litigation, insurance, and reserves. Some programs need the project on an approved list. If a building doesn't meet standard rules, non-warrantable condo financing may be an option.

Insurance in your payment

Your HO-6 policy covers the inside of the unit and your belongings. It's counted in your payment. If the unit is in a flood zone, the master flood policy matters too, and you may want your own flood policy for the inside.

Steps

  1. Get the unit's current dues in writing, including any master fee.
  2. Get the association budget and reserve information.
  3. Ask about assessments.
  4. Get an HO-6 quote.
  5. Share all of it before your pre-approval is finalized.

Questions to ask

  • What exactly do the dues cover?
  • Are there separate master and building fees?
  • Any assessments levied or planned?
  • When was the last reserve study?
  • Is the building approved for my loan type?

Comparing two units

Say two Town Shores units are listed at the same price. One building's dues include more services and a stronger reserve. The other has lower dues but a pending roof project. The first may cost more each month but carry less risk of an assessment. The second may qualify more easily today but cost more later. Look at the whole picture, not just the monthly number.

Age rules and your plans

Town Shores of Gulfport is made up of separate condominium associations, and many are marketed as 55+ communities. Age rules can differ by building and may be set by association policy rather than the recorded declaration. Ask the specific building's association for its current age policy and most recent age survey before you buy or rent. Read the rules for the specific building, including its age, occupancy, and guest rules. These rules don't change your loan math, but they can change whether the unit fits your life.

What lenders ask the association

The condo questionnaire asks the association about dues delinquencies, insurance, reserves, litigation, and rental share. If too many owners are behind on dues, or the reserves are thin, the project may not pass a standard review. Ask the management company how quickly it returns questionnaires, since that can affect your closing date.

A quick budget check

Add your estimated principal and interest, taxes, HO-6 insurance, and dues. Compare that total to what you're comfortable paying, not just what you qualify for. Then leave room for a possible assessment. Ask the seller for the last few dues statements too.

What to do next

Read the Town Shores guide. Book a consult to run the numbers for a specific unit.

I'm a Realtor with Realty of America, and separately I'm a Mortgage Loan Originator with PMF, Inc. Those are two separate companies, and you don't have to use both. Jonathan Loescher, Mortgage Loan Originator, NMLS# 2621894 | PMF, Inc. NMLS# 1980. This page is consumer education, not a commitment to lend. Any loan approval is conditional until all underwriting conditions are met.

Jonathan's Advice

My Take

I always ask for the dues before I size a pre-approval on a condo. In a community like Town Shores, the building matters. Lower dues can mean more room in your budget, but check the reserves too.

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